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June 14, 2022

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Min

First reply - "Vote differently"

That.

David

For some reason, I was reminded of Jurassic Park.

David

It also reminded of the time, a few years ago, when the Other Half and I, and a friend, were parked at the coast - Whitby, I think – chatting merrily and about to tuck into a tube of Pringles. Suddenly, an enormous seagull landed on the car and peered intently through the windscreen, clearly intrigued by said tube of Pringles. When you see a seagull close up – say, mere inches away - they can be a little more imposing than previously assumed.

The three of us sat there for some time, laughing quite a lot, but trying not to move.

STG

A tragic detrans thread.

Rafi

When you park the car in Portland.

Zombies are real.

David

Not an unfair point.

He’s just like you, ladies.

“She/her.”

I don’t often find myself in agreement with hardline feminists, but when they say that women by and large would rather not share their bathrooms and changing rooms with mentally ill men, many of whom seem to have anger-management issues, it’s hard to demur.

Maynard G. Krebs

What mental health crisis?

David Davis

The thing to do these days is not to go to Portland.

I am presuming that it's the one in the USA, and not in Dorset, England - where I do believe some normal-humans still exist and even live.

The other thing to do, and urgently, is for all normal-Americans to set about arresting all politicians whose social-media accounts are currently listing them as of the "democrat" party, and placing them in orange jumpsuits in exciting places where they can meet those men which execute the logical conclusions of their trumpeted political objectives.

asiaseen

A tragic detrans thread.

Fuck everyone who let this happen.

There's only one person to blame, buddy.

pst314

What mental health crisis?

Not just the mental health of the druggies and "homeless". Also the leftist and "liberals" who created the problem.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

There's only one person to blame, buddy.

Yes, he made a bad decision, but it was based on bad info. Complicit are all the people pushing this crap who supported him in his delusion, the NHS who perform "genital reassignment" surgery (get in line for you hip, grandma), and anyone else who didn't get him the real help he needed and fully explain and make him understand the ramifications of what he was wanting to do.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Meanwhile in Asgard...

WTP

I am presuming that it's the one in the USA, and not in Dorset, England

And the one on the left coast in Oregon, not the slightly more sane one with milder substance abuse issues in Maine.

Also, what Farnsworth said.

The other thing to do, and urgently, is for all normal-Americans to set about arresting all politicians whose social-media accounts are currently listing them as of the "democrat" party, and placing them in orange jumpsuits in exciting places where they can meet those men which execute the logical conclusions of their trumpeted political objectives.

Y'all do realize that these people and their fellow travelers outnumber us. Considerably, when you consider all the conservatives..."conservatives" who are made much more uncomfortable being around us than being around them?

ccscientist

When I saw "naked woman" and "portland" I knew better than to get my hopes up. Of course, hard drugs are legal there.

The detrans post is just so sad. He is right to be angry. Such surgery goes against the "first do no harm" oath docs are supposed to go by. The hormonal system is complicated and has lots of effects besides sexual desire. Screw it up at your peril.

pst314

Meanwhile in Asgard...

From the comments:

Why is black Asgard covered in graffiti?
Why does black Thor wear Jordans?...

Clearly they want us to know that authentic black culture is ghetto culture. I wonder what other aspects of ghetto culture could be proudly displayed for our enjoyment.

...White people don't get to have anything, apparently. All traditional culture and history is erased or appropriated for the woke."

Remember when black racist professors and cranks were claiming that the Greeks "stole" their philosophy from black Egyptians? Never mind for the moment that the claim itself was fraudulent--a racist lie. Consider the black reaction when Greeks (and whites in general) objected to this appropriation of their history: Blacks called them "racist" and said that blacks were entitled to feel "proud" about something. Well, why shouldn't Greeks have a right to be proud of the real achievements of their real ancestors? Apparently only blacks are entitled to be proud, and are entitled to be proud of things their fake ancestors never did.

David

A tragic detrans thread.

It’s not unlike telling an anorexic person that yes, they do look really fat and should starve themselves even more. Because, hey, we must affirm and celebrate wildly distorted perceptions.

WTP

BTW, PSA...If you're on an iPad and have been constantly prompted to upgrade to IOS 15.5 for a couple weeks now and you're tempted to give in, don't. It's just...just...f*$=&(//+$**=++==.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Right. Let us know how that Pap smear turns out Eddie.

pst314

Right. Let us know how that Pap smear turns out Eddie.

Was Eddie Izzard always far-left? I used to know some "conservatives" who liked him, but I no longer trust what they say.

ccscientist

In case anyone missed Farnsworth's reference, the brit NHS is requiring doctors to give pap smears to XY "women" who don't have a cervix or uterus, but not give them prostate exams. Glad I'm not a doc there.

ComputerLabRat

It’s not unlike telling an anorexic person that yes, they do look really fat and should starve themselves even more. Because, hey, we must affirm and celebrate wildly distorted perceptions.

This, a thousand times this. To which I will add: and performing gastric sleeve surgery them, to cure them of their fatness.

asiaseen

Yes, he made a bad decision, but it was based on bad info.

Sure but ultimately it was his/her/its signature on the consent forms.

ccscientist

If someone wishes they were blind, should docs blind them? If they have an amputee fetish, should they amputate? Anorexia was mentioned. The morbidly obese want to be celebrated, so do we give them food supplements? If there is no longer a sense of "normal" then this is the slippery slope we are on.

Daniel Ream

Sure but ultimately it was his/her/its signature on the consent forms.

As I keep pointing out, and as many, many detransitioners confirm, these people are mentally ill, often because of severe childhood sexual abuse. They are not in any meaningful way competent to make these kinds of permanent life-altering decisions.

pst314

As I keep pointing out, and as many, many detransitioners confirm, these people are mentally ill...

Unfortunately, they are surrounded by false friends intent on using them for evil purposes.

In the Eighth Circle of Dante's Inferno can be found the evil counsellors.

David

As I keep pointing out, and as many, many detransitioners confirm, these people are mentally ill,

But affirming the delusions of mentally ill people and then giving those mentally ill people drugs that will induce premature osteoporosis and other debilitating conditions and encouraging them to undergo grotesque surgical mutilations, which entail serious and permanent nerve damage, loss of sexual function, incontinence, very often chronic pain, and not uncommonly, a lingering stench of necrotic tissue… all of this is something to celebrate, apparently.

Oh, how we laughed at the jollity of it all.

ccscientist

We are at the point where pointing out the consequences of things makes you a bad person rather than a hero because there are no adults anymore and we must affirm the childish wishes of our betters. Could it be that:
Shutting down drilling will raise gas prices?
Surgery and hormones for children or mental ill will cause horrific problems?
Printing tons of money will cause inflation?
Well, we can no longer reason it out. We must instead try all the insane things and swing wildly back and forth with policy. We now have 8% inflation (more I think) in the US because no adults were available. We have thousands of kids (I repeat kids) getting permanent surgery and hormones because we must indulge crazy parents. There is some swing back on law enforcement after all the progressive retail experiences. But it is after stores closed and people died.

pst314

We are at the point where pointing out the consequences of things makes you a bad person

In other words, we are "anti-soviet conspirators". See this book which is still in print.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Sure but ultimately it was his/her/its signature on the consent forms.

Once upon a time I got in trouble because I refused to witness a consent form on a patient with severe mental disability who the chief resident scared the crap out of with a lurid explanation of what would happen if he didn't sign. The guy signed, somebody else witnessed, but the guy had no clue what he was signing. Of course a judge without ever having seen the guy had deemed him competent, even though he could barely write his name.

None of us know how smart the detrans guy in question is, or what exactly he was told, but I doubt that all the possible complications were explained, because they are still not fully known. Was he told that the proximal remnants of the corpus cavernosa could still get erections or that the rerouting of the urethra could lead to incontinece? If he had a piece of the colon used for the vaginoplasty, was the function of the crypts of Lieberkuhn explained?

They are not in any meaningful way competent...they are surrounded by false friends...

Even if we assume that everything was explained, were the surgeons, shrinks, and his "buddies" all telling him, like the pediatrician in the Walsh video, that this was the panacea for his mental discomfort in which case he might sign anything? Many such cases where people will sign anything to make something stop hurting, this is no different.

Darleen

There's only one person to blame, buddy.

Not quite. When a person with cognitive issues is taken advantage of, the other people share most/all of the blame.

From the stories I've read from detrans/desisters these were people with easy-to-id severe mental issues making them vulnerable to any snakeoil salesman offering a "cure." And in this new medically-supported "fad", family/friend members who try to intervene to keep the person from following through are the ones who risk their jobs, reputations, child custody and even jail time.

Anonymous

My stepson is trans. In my US state, saying so was enough to get him started on drugs. No counseling. No questions so far as I know. He was a few years over 21 so no parental consent needed. I was shocked at how quickly it happened.

We still keep in touch. Whether as a result of the drugs or a couple of car accidents or bad genes (all are possible, he was also diagnosed ADD and had been on ritalin for years), he has a joint-weakening disease. He's able to walk, but he uses a wheelchair, and chances are he won't live much past 30. He seems happy and he's living with a supportive group (also trans). So far as I know, he hadn't undergone the surgery.

There's nothing prideful about this, and naturally we can't say anything about it.

pst314

Even if we assume that everything was explained, were the surgeons, shrinks, and his "buddies" all telling him, like the pediatrician in the Walsh video, that this was the panacea for his mental discomfort in which case he might sign anything?

The readiness of smart educated people to embrace faddish delusions. Folie à deux millions.

WTP

Sure but ultimately it was his/her/its signature on the consent forms.

This is the problem, however. As Farnsworth says, his mental state is, by the very nature of the problem, severely impaired. Were he paying for these operations himself it is likely he would be less inclined to go through with it. Not just the cost, but the full mental process of making such a truly irreversible, life changing decision.

But even then, the incentives are clearly there for all of the more rational (?) people involved to go along with this idiocy. For this guy, this is likely the only decision remotely like this that he has to deal with. All these other "experts" have tremendously more experience and "education" on the matter. Where would a person in his position turn to? Is he capable of getting outside of his warped frame of reference when even many of the butcher "experts" who will cut him up have failed to do so? That's assuming said butchers are not ALL sociopaths. I mean what would be the odds? Don't answer that...The reality of the participation of these "experts" is the more important thing to be addressed.

WTP

Dammit...diluted my point in the first paragraph...If he had to come up with the money (unlikely to happen in full) or appeal to others who might help him financially, or even provide him extra employment or such to pay for it, that process would bring him into contact with people with skin in the game. Either first hand or in a "Glad to get you more work but what is this extra effort for?" sense.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Worth reading.

To the points above:

Children are without a shadow of a doubt being experimented on, and their parents are being emotionally manipulated into “transing” their kids; otherwise, they are told, their children will “kill themselves.”

More:

When people are unhappy, we shouldn’t rush to medicate and operate on them to “affirm” what they say they want. Sometimes institutions, such as medicine and education, and the people who comprise them, go wrong. Those who work in these places need to speak up when they know something isn’t right. Parents’ eagerness to change their children’s sex should be a red flag; doctors keen to be at the “cutting edge” of new technologies of the body are to be questioned, not worshipped.
ccscientist

For another example, check the history of lobotomies for mental illness. Severe side effects. Naysayers ignored.
Lobotomy for severe epilepsy is done only on one side of the brain and can save someone's life--still iffy.

Daniel Ream

There's nothing prideful about this, and naturally we can't say anything about it.

You have my condolences. Although I bang on about the childhood sexual abuse etiology, I see a lot of ADD/"autistic" kids getting suckered into the trans thing as well. I see very few of them going through with surgery though.

ccscientist

Some more: lobotomies were performed on more than 20,000. Forced sterilization on "undesirables" on even more. So this trans thing is nothing new.

ccscientist

Sorry, those numbers for the US--even more if you add Europe.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

lobotomies were performed on more than 20,000

Estimated up to 3X that, Freeman himself is reported to have done up to 5000. The original US Freeman-Watts procedure was done in an OR in controlled circumstances by genuine neurosurgeons, Freeman developed the "ice pick" method which became an office procedure done by shinks either in their offices or in institutions so an accurate number will never be known.

Other dubious treatments included insulin shock and malaria "treatment" (also used for syphilis - any type, not just neurosyphilis).

WTP

What was the "malaria" treatment? Please say it had something to do with gin & tonics.

Also, curious...did the reload timeout for comments get significantly shorter? I'm having to enter about 1/4 of my comments twice now.

pst314

What reload timeout? Don't understand. I never see David's pages automatically reload/refresh.

WTP

Page loads. Read through page. Time elapses. Put comment in and hit "Post". Get error stating that the page no longer exists or whatever the message is when there may have been other comments in the meantime. Hit reload. No new comments. Enter comment, hit "Post". No error.

This is not abnormal over an hour or so but I'm noticing it on 15- minute time frames or so.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Please say it had something to do with gin & tonics.

Alas, no. For syphilis, Treponema pallidum can only exist in a narrow temperature range, so inducing fever in the luckless SOB being treated would kill off and stop replication. For psychoses, which other fevers had been shown to cure, I don't believe the mechanism of action was worked out, but it would be reasonable to assume it would be similar to a severe heat injury where ischemia, hypoxia, and inflammation could knock out what ever broken part of the brain was causing the psychosis.

Why malaria if any fever would do, this treatment started around the beginning of the 20th century and of the available infections, because quinine resistance was not a thing yet, it was the most easily treated.

pst314

Get error stating that the page no longer exists or whatever..."

Got it.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Delightful urban dining experience part 4799

JML

Apparently the explorer Richard Burton had his syphilis cured by a bout of malaria.

David

Elsewhere in Portland:

Breezy.

Also breezy.

Richard Cranium
Delightful urban dining experience part 4799

Underwear optional as well, it seems.

WTP

Underwear optional

She's wearing a thong. You can see this if you look closely. Look closely you racist bigot. These people are not animals you know. Sheesh. Wypipo.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Elsewhere in Portland:

Must be the heat, because meanwhile in Chicago...

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Of course they are, it is irrelevant that it was first observed in monkeys.

Wait till they find out Jenner used cowpox to inoculate for smallpox, sounds like racism against dairy farmers to me.

Maynard G. Krebs

I think of society as Flounder and our collective governments, institutions and sundry "experts" as Otter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTF2j0OWUi8

This applies to just about every aspect of modern life. BTW, the automated voice message we received yesterday telling us unplug unnecessary devises and raise our thermostat at least 2 degrees 'due to our power generator shifting from coal and natural gas to solar and wind...or face a forced brownout' has me less pleased with modern life than normal. But unlike transitioning surgery, this is completely reversible...if we were led by people who weren't complete idiots.

anon a mouse

"There’s Something On The Windscreen"

Hmm. That will take a bit more RainX, I think...

pst314

Hmm. That will take a bit more RainX, I think...

Replace the windshield wiper fluid with tear gas.

PiperPaul

if we were led by people who weren't complete idiots

The idiot percentage has become much worse because of software; sophisticated tools make the best better but also make the dumb much dumber.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...For one "woman" in Kiev...; the best part is the please donate to the Puppies With Cancer Foundation music.

pst314

...For one "woman" in Kiev...

"She" complains that "she" will probably not be allowed to leave Ukraine. Not said, but I strongly suspect that this is because "she" is a male of the right age for military service.

David

Always respect the media.

Pronouns in bio, needless to say.

Darleen

if we were led by people who weren't complete idiots.

Idiots are well-intentioned even as they are walking disaster zones.

Our Betters know what they are doing. Their disasters are features, not bugs.

WTP

Always respect the media.

Bill Murray was not available for comment. No, seriously. I checked YouTube. Could not find that specific review. This much later bit was moderately funny however. In an off-topic A-LOOO-min-um sense.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

"She" complains that "she" will probably not be allowed to leave Ukraine.

He complains he can't leave Kiev which he claims is hell for "trans". Right, last time I looked at a map there is more to Ukraine than Kiev, and I guess it would be too much to expect of him to go to Lviv or someplace far from the fighting and do something to support the war effort.

ccscientist

Sure, it is hell for trans in Kyiv...oh wait, there is a war going on and it is hell for everyone.

Henry

Reminds me not so much of Jurassic Park but of that Twilight Zone episode "Nightmare at 20000 feet"
Classic overblown Shatner performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dar2HKImK-0

WEP

if we were led by people who weren't complete idiots

I wonder if we're not undergoing governing by Manufactured Discontent.

I came across this phrase in reference to a video about Fortnite. The idea there is to let people pay for free, but make the experience so bad to encourage them to pony up an endless stream of cash.

I've seen variations of MD already. Liberal lawyers change the means of capital punishment from the easy (gunshot, the same lethal injection we use to kill our sick pets) to horrific to encourage opposition to CP.

We have had liberals closing state hospitals and reducing effective ways of treating the mentally ill to inflict them on communities. Now we have Soros-backed prosecutors releasing criminals to reoffend in an attempt to impose more (and ineffective) gun control regulations.

The compliant liberal media support them and refuse to look into more effective alternatives.

This also provides cover for the true objective of government: funneling taxpayer money to businesses and groups who bribe contribute to political non-profits used to build personal fortunes and provide phony-baloney jobs to worthless relatives.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Whether this is real or not, it is nothing new.

I once went through this over 40 years ago with a mandatory course in which I quickly learned the only way to pass was to spit back the party line, only difference was they didn't say it up front.

David

it is nothing new.

That would be the sociology department that saw fit to employ the ludicrous* Colin Cremin.

[ Added: ]

*Ludicrous, delusional, obnoxious, narcissistic, and dishonest. Just to be clear.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Speaking of Ludicrous, delusional, obnoxious, narcissistic, and dishonest....

The trend is becoming clear, next up, the pyramids were designed and built by "trans".

pst314

Did Mussolini make the trans run on time?

PiperPaul

Is that your coat?

Peachy rex

https://cwbchicago.com/2022/06/woman-ran-over-chicago-cop-with-a-hijacked-squad-car-had-fired-shots-and-crashed-her-own-car-minutes-earlier-prosecutors-say.html

Dear Portland

Please hold my adult beverage.

Sincerely
Chicago

pst314

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pst314

Mexican-Born Texas House Candidate Rides Rightward Latino Drift to Historic Victory.

Rightward Latino Drift: Band name or racehorse name?

Steve E

Rightward Latino Drift: Band name or racehorse name?

Was thinking more a Mexican version of this.

Steve E

next up, the pyramids were designed and built by "trans".

Sub-saharan "trans" if you please.

Pooklord

"Latino Drift"

Definitely a racehorse name.

Daniel Ream

Sub-saharan "trans" if you please.

I'm observing yet another Facebook thread that contends that the Roman Empire had tons of black people because of its colonies in North Africa and generals like Scipio Africanus.

Romulus wept, these people are stupid.

WTP

Can we just skip ahead to where we finally admit the ultimate truth, that everything good and useful in this world was really created by the blackest, most hispanic, asian, furry transexual lesbians-with-dicks baby f****g cannibal communities of history who worshipped The One True Satan? The slow crawl to this bloody obvious Truth is just wasting everyone's time.

WTP

Oh, and they did mushrooms too. In their communes. Damn you, colonial white man.

asiaseen

designed and built by "trans"

Otherwise known as eunuchs?

David

[ Compiles tomorrow’s Ephemera, sounds of muffled laughing. ]

Farnsworth M Muldoon

First time a woman who does't at all throw like a girl gets a first pitch over the plate, and NBC has a big mad because Fox didn't show it.

The unexplained snub took on even greater weight since Schneider, the first transgender woman to qualify for "Jeopardy's" Tournament of Champions, had appeared Saturday as part of Pride Day at Oracle Park.

Fox, damn heretics.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Meanwhile at a seminary school in Arizona, "What do you think caused your heterosexuality?" and other theological "leadership and diversity" questions.

asiaseen

Do we have to wait 600 years to find the origins of the WuFlu?

Ancient teeth reveal where Black Death began, researchers say
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61820604

David

“What do you think caused your heterosexuality?” and other theological “leadership and diversity” questions.

And yet there was a time, not too long ago, when teachers on the whole were not weirdly interested in their students’ sex lives. To the extent those students had sex lives, of course.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...“leadership and diversity” questions.

I know these are all Bizzaro world "what if we switched words" gotcha questions, but I am not sure how, by shoving an agenda in someone's face (e.g., Question 8), it is actually going to "reduce homophobia" and not just piss people off with another pointless exercise where one has to spout the party line.

pst314

I am not sure how, by shoving an agenda in someone's face (e.g., Question 8), it is actually going to "reduce homophobia" and not just piss people off with another pointless exercise where one has to spout the party line.

I'm sure that one of the purposes is to gratify the natural sadism of leftists and queer activists. But the chief reason is to humiliate and bully people into submission--train them to submit to political tyranny. When they are forced to participate in lies, their personalities are corrupted and they become ever more manipulable. Leftists are not fellow citizens.

Sue Sims

The obvious retort to the questionnaire would be something like: "It makes sense asking how an abnormality* arises, not to inquire how normality comes to be. Heterosexuality is statistically the norm (as one would expect for a mammalian species). Therefore, even as an ironic role reversal, this 'questionnaire' is ridiculous."

Sue Sims

Sorry, the asterisk should have led to a footnote reading: *If the word offends, substitute 'departure from the statistical norm'.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Ancient teeth reveal where Black Death began, researchers say

I see, people started it, that is why prairie dogs in the desert southwest are a reservoir. The problem appears to be conflating bubonic plague with pneumonic plague which is caused by the same Yersinia pestis, but generally directly transmitted person-person via aerosol droplet, not that during a Yersina plague a person could not be an accidental reservoir.

"So we could construct models of the disease dynamics [there]."

Oh. A computer model, never mind, if that doesn't prove it, nothing will.

anon a mouse

"To the extent those students had sex lives, of course."

Well, there was Ms. Vivian, teacher of English language, all 5'2" of her with a favorite (hers and ours) halter top

(yeah, it was the 70's. So there)

David

all 5’2” of her with a favorite (hers and ours) halter top

[ Googles halter top. ]

Ah. I see.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Ah. I see.

Now do "tube top", for educational purposes, of course.

David

Now do “tube top”

See, I now fear what’s going to materialise in my Google and YouTube recommendations. It’s like the time I’d just compiled the week’s ephemera, which must’ve featured a bra-related item, and for the next few days I was bombarded with adverts for bras.

So. Many. Bras.

WTP

"So we could construct models of the disease dynamics [there]."

Pray God, will You ever spare us from these egotistical overeducated idiots? Or do You prefer we do it ourselves? Because our way ain't gonna be pretty and sure as shit You will show up later and tell us how we did it wrong.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Pray God, will You ever spare us from these egotistical overeducated idiots?

The thing that is particularly stupid is that this is not a new disease and the means of transmission, hosts, and the lot were worked out over 100 years ago, and have been studied extensively. Unless they can show that ancient American Indians and Kyrgyzstanis were going around biting prairie dogs and voles, they have demonstrated bupkis with their "models".

Meanwhile, speaking of idiots, the Miss Universe people would like to lecture us on menstrual equity.

WTP

for the next few days I was bombarded with adverts for bras.

Something the Wife and I noticed recently...we share MY Facebook account. She was of course too shy to get her own but now she's on mine all the bloody time...but I digress. Anyway, we noticed that when she views things from her devices she sees more female-oriented things. I tend to see more man-oriented things. Every once in a while, usually via some Amazon related post, I do see things she likely clicked on, etc. Last night she saw a couple of posts/suggestions suggesting interest in Asian or Eastern European women. Of course she asks. Now I have on occasion, it seems to happen in waves...ones with long periods...npi..."friend" suggestions with obviously suspicious sexy female profile pics. Yet ver, very odd that I haven't seen these Asian/European solicitation style posts.

David

the Miss Universe people would like to lecture us on menstrual equity.

It’s remarkable how quickly deranged pretension spreads.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Quite the journey from "A chicken in every pot..." to A drag queen in every school...

“Drag queens make everything better. Drag queens are fun,” Nessel said...“I am so tired of having prominent members of our state government create wedge issues that don’t help, that don’t heal us but divide us. And that’s all they do,”

Nessel said without a trace of reflection.

pst314

[ Googles halter top. ]

David, now google "busty Ukrainian beauties want to meet you".

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