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June 01, 2022

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Joan

in which we learn that 90 minutes is thirty minutes plus another thirty

Counting is hard (and racist).

semi retired conservative

Counting is hard (and racist).

Except when calculating reparations. Natch.

CayleyGraph
Counting is hard (and racist).

Except when calculating reparations. Natch.

Nah, it's still easy. The answer is always "More".

svh

So black kids shouldn't learn the importance of behaving, doing homework or turning up on time?

David

So black kids shouldn’t learn the importance of behaving, doing homework or turning up on time?

Expecting such things would apparently be unfair, an affront to “equity,” and damning evidence of “unconscious bias.” Instead, pupils should be spared the outrage of deadlines and time-keeping in general, and be given repeated opportunities to retake a test, over and over again, and be given a license to misbehave with impunity, unlike their peers, depending on how brown they happen to be.

Needless to say, during all of this, the word justice is deployed, unironically.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

So black kids shouldn't learn the importance of behaving, doing homework or turning up on time?

No, as was mentioned yesterday;

Oak Park and River Forest High School administration and faculty will examine grading and reporting practices in academic and elective courses utilizing evidence-backed research and the racial equity analysis tool.

The full name of the "racial equity analysis tool" is, I believe, The Peter Griffin Racial Equity Analysis Tool.

ccscientist

Posted on prior thread:
If a minority person stays in school, stays married, stays out of jail and gangs then the income gap almost vanishes. Jail removes a person from the workforce during key years for career development and adds a burden for future jobs. It is a terrible idea. The woke want to not allow checking for criminal records, but this means that employers do not want to hire any minority persons due to risk.

Darleen

IOW, Our Betters™ are saying quite openly that black people are incapable of competing in any intellectual area and must retain the status of favored pet (as long as they behave as such ... no Uncle Tom achieving in connection with the Other team now).

David

For those who missed it, not entirely unrelated.

David

And if it still isn’t clear where this “equity” thinking goes, see also this.

Marvel at the contortions.

Steve E

Why not embrace this progressive, transformative approach to education? Let's take it to its logical conclusion. Why should black people have to go to school at all? Let's issue diplomas at birth alongside a birth certificate. Think of the great contraction of schools that could occur and the associated savings to ratepayers. I'd say it's a win/win. It's not like they're getting an education now.

David

It’s not like they’re getting an education now.

Indeed.

Daniel Ream

this means that employers do not want to hire any minority persons due to risk

People with money on the line will always find ways of evaluating potential employees. Take away an external standard, they'll develop one of their own. I've worked at a number of Canadian engineering firms that flat-out would not hire women because of the insane amount of exemption-from-standards women engineers get as undergrads. The companies can't trust their grades or license, and can't afford an internal testing program, so the fallback is just not to hire them.

Marvel at the contortions.

For a moment I thought that was going to be another link about how Marvel Entertainment is committing creative and financial suicide. Then I realized that it's DC Comics that's currently proving that Fredric Wertham was right about everything.

Uma Thurmond's Feet

One of my favorite history books is "Reelin' on Beale," about the white-owned radio station in Memphis, dead last in the ratings (back in the '50s) that it turned to programming for black people, and became a powerhouse. Due to its success, the station's signal was boosted over most of the eastern half of the U.S., bringing R&B and early rock and roll to popular audiences.

What was fascinating about the book was how the station recruited local leaders of the black community to create shows about issues that concerned them the most. One of them was a high school teacher who mentored students, worked for his church, and acted as a role model.

The irony, of course, was that black communities were built on segregation, which created room for black-owned businesses to grow, and encouraged a separate society staffed by black doctors, lawyers, store owners, manufacturers, advertisers, newspapers, and other media outlets.

Once segregation was outlawed, these communities began decaying due to competition from larger (white-owned) businesses, and the urban renewal movement in the '60s destroyed a lot of black neighborhoods in favor of highways and office parks.

pst314

I've worked at a number of Canadian engineering firms that flat-out would not hire women because of the insane amount of exemption-from-standards women engineers get as undergrads.

Even exemptions when they got their masters degrees? [ Eyes widen ]

aelfheld
They can no longer be docked for missing class, misbehaving in school, or failing to turn in their assignments, according to the plan.

Why it's almost as though they're trying to create an unsocialised, unemployable, permanently resentful caste.

Adam

Has anyone bothered to assess how well getting rid of classroom discipline and grading standards has affected the so-called “school to prison pipeline”?

My guess would be that encouraging disruptive behavior and discouraging learning might actually keep that pipeline full.

aelfheld
Why should black people have to go to school at all?

The rationale behind mandatory school attendance (education seemingly having been abandoned) is due for re-examination. Eliminating government run schools appears more attractive each day. If parents were to pay for the education of their children they would be much more attentive to the content of that education.

JKS

Turns out this may be a fake report: https://donmoynihan.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-fake?s=r

Now, Moynihan is evidently a left-leaning ideologue who sees evil Republican misinformation everywhere but fails to notice trivialities like Hillary's involvement in the Russian collusion hoax . . . but fake is fake, even if it's perpetrated by "our" side. Wouldn't it be great if we were willing to accept good news, e.g., that school administrators are not in fact imposing racist grading standards -- instead of desperately wanting to believe it to be true?

pst314

There are times when debtor's prison seems like a good idea.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...but fake is fake...

The only direct evidence the report provided about the proposed policy change was a powerpoint deck presented at at a May 26 school board meeting.

Oh, OK, only a proposed change, no big deal that they are even considering it.

Nothing in the powerpoint slide or elsewhere in the article is there material that supports the claim laid out in the lede that a) policy change has taken place, and b) students “can no longer be docked for missing class, misbehaving in school or failing to turn in their assignments.”

Slide 11:

Many OPRFHS teachers are successfully exploring and implementing more equitable grading practices such as: utilizing aspects of competency-based grading, eliminating zeros from the grade book, and encouraging and rewarding growth over time

I know I am old, but missing class, misbehaving, and not turning work in generally resulted in zeros, and I speak form experience, so yeah, not exactly stated, but certainly implied seeing as how that stuff is waved off in other school districts.

sonny wayz

There are times when debtor's prison seems like a good idea.

This person is described several times as a 'flack'. ISTR that being an insult. Did I miss an update to Orwell's lexicon?

pst314

This person is described several times as a 'flack'. ISTR that being an insult. Did I miss an update to Orwell's lexicon?

I get the impression that the word has lost much of its negative connotation. And I'll bet you that not one person in a hundred now understands the origin of the word.

That said, I am happy to see her catching flak. Let's all mau-mau the flak catchers.

Steve E

Oh, OK, only a proposed change, no big deal that they are even considering it.

Yes, it's all motte and bailey. The writer of the article points out many examples of the motte, but the bailey is "no policy change was enacted." While one may be happy that such changes weren't enacted, it's clear that some of those things have already been put in practice in the field and we should not be surprised if they are officially enacted. Although, school boards these days put many things into practice that are not officially enacted and they often don't tell the parents.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...and now for something completely different, this charming lady introduces us to emoji zenopronouns.

She uses a tooth (tooth/toothself) because her "gender" relates to teeth.

Never a canvas camisole with wrap-around sleeves handy when you need one.

Farnsworth M Muldoon

Meanwhile, back on the topic of fake news, CNN brings us a repentant Republican AR-15 owner who just happens to be named "Richard Small".

Seriously, they need to try harder* (NPI).

*(BTW, watch the video, this guy is as Republican as Pelosi)

NJH

Instead, pupils should be spared the outrage of deadlines and time-keeping in general, and be given repeated opportunities to retake a test, and be given a license to misbehave with impunity, unlike their peers, depending on how brown they happen to be.

Hardly adequate preparation for jail where a lot of them will end up. In such places the clock governs all and bouts of indiscipline are met with vigorous correction. Opportunities, if any, are rarely offered a second time.

WTP

Oh, OK, only a proposed change, no big deal that they are even considering it.
...
Meanwhile, back on the topic of fake news, CNN brings us a repentant Republican AR-15 owner who just happens to be named "Richard Small".

God, it's this sort of crap...And the vast majority of "intelligent" and "well informed" (via NPR mostly) people whom I know simply cannot see through the bloody obvious here. Because they is smaaaart.

pst314

An exercise in avoiding the obvious.

pst314

California judge rules that bees are fish.

randian

Why it's almost as though they're trying to create an unsocialised, unemployable, permanently resentful caste

Blacks are being taught that they are royalty and whites are, basically, their servants. What is there to resent? I would argue, rather, that people for whom there are no consequences have a marked tendency to become abusive narcissists.

[+]

'There cannot be excellence without equity'

https://twitter.com/jocalynclark/status/1531882832087375874

Fred the Fourth

Skimmed the " bees are fish" ruling.
The state legislature expanded the definition of "fish" to include amphibians, crustaceans, and... invertebrates. That was in the interest of allowing water-living critters other than conventional fish, to be protected as endangered species, under existing law.
So the legislature effed up. It wasn't much of a leap for the court to conclude that bees, as invertebrates, fall into the protected scope.
The lege put that word in there. The court, being a California court, gleefully took advantage.
So now, the original law, written to protect "fish", is now going to be construed to cover all invertebrates. Which live absolutely everywhere, dry, wet, airborne, under your bed. Isn't lawmaking magical and wonderful?

Whatever you may think about endangered species protection, this is a Bad Thing.

This is very similar to how the US federal rules allowing the EPA to govern "navigable waters" are now construed to cover seasonal ponds and occasional streams.

Fred the Fourth

I'm pleased that most of the following tweets were either refutations of that point, or noting that it was rhetorically weak. Very little support.
Oh, and lots of lamentations about the decline of the Lancet journal, not that that hasn't been obvious for many years.
Another skinsuit demanding respect.

Fred the Fourth

Hmm.
My last comment refers to the "equity" comment, in case anyone is confused.

TomJ
the so-called “school to prison pipeline”

This has become the latest obsession of twitter edu-progs and one of thee bedrocks for the No More Exclusions campaign. The campaign, from what I've seen, is supported by academics and consultants, has been boosted by the Graun and fiercely criticised by serving teachers...

Farnsworth M Muldoon

...the US federal rules allowing the EPA to govern "navigable waters"...

Fish live in water, insects are fish, my yard has fire ants, ergo, my yard is water and thus a navigable waterway.

Res ipsa loquitur - is there a place I can apply to be a California judge?

WTP

Fish live in water, insects are fish, my yard has fire ants, ergo, my yard is water and thus a navigable waterway.

Another thing about this BS that I see clear as day but cannot seem to get across...When these absurdities first crop up people, usually on the right, point out that the logic is flawed and if followed to an extreme it will lead to absolute absurdities like classifying bees as being just like fish. Then "the grownups in the room", usually the moderate left aided by the subservient right, mock such objections as ridiculous, beyond the pale, etc. Then a few years go by and here we are.

I remember about 30 years ago when they first started passing out condoms in the schools, I think because of AIDS or something, the conservative-leaning news station that I would listen to when driving to work (now not so conservative) played a recording of a school board meeting from 20 or so years before that where sex education was being debated. One parent said words to the effect of "What's next? Passing out condoms?" To which said parent was mocked and shouted down.

Because no such thing as a slippery slope...or whatever.

sk60

Expecting such things would apparently be unfair, an affront to “equity,”

Related...

https://youtu.be/SKQoEMkaNXo

Dee

Thank you for sharing

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